SS 100 – THE PATRIARCH

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My Great-grandfather, Neil F. McNeil, husband to “The Matriarch” seen here earlier.

(N.B. Please see the very bottom of the page for a very important development!)

I had a chat with my mom yesterday after coming across something significant online (below).  Her head was filled with memories of her grandparents and this morning she informed me that last night she dreamed about her grandfather, or “Papa” as he was known to her.

She recalls that he was a very upright man, a little stern even, but not with his grandchildren.  He used to lift his young grand-daughters, my mother and her sister, Joan, up on the kitchen counter next to the sink so they would be at his level, and he used to sing songs to them.

He was always impeccably turned out, as was his wife, Alice.  They were a handsome pair.

This is the man who became the first Town Clerk of Glace Bay in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia in 1901.

This is the man who, in that capacity, took my grandmother, Katie to meet the inventor, Marconi when he was in Glace Bay in December, 1902.  That’s how she got to sit on the Italian’s knee when she was just a tot.

Mom says, in her dream, Papa was singing a song* and she remembered what it was when she was dreaming, but it is lost again now.

Mom  tells me, that when Papa died suddenly in 1938, he was laid out in the front parlour “up home” at 6 Cottage Street.  She and Joan were required to kiss his forehead as he rested in his open casket.  Quite a fearsome thing for a six and an eight-year old!

She remembers him fondly, and I, I can only  research and piece together who he was from cold census data, and the occasional pay-dirt such as this, found at  (and borrowed from) INTERNET ARCHIVE:

“That Neil F. McNeil, of Glace Bay, Cape Breton County, has
been selected to discharge the duties of town clerk, is an indication
that he is not only a man of ability and public-spirit but also of
integrity and reliability; for it is not often the case in Nova Scotia
that incompetent and irresponsible men become public officials.

Mr. McNeil was born in the above named town and county,
February 7, 1866. He is a son of Malcolm and Ann McNeil, the
father a native of lona, Cape Breton County, and the mother was
torn at Grand Narrows, that county. Neil McNeil, the grandfather,
was a native of lona, Cape Breton County, and the mother was born
at Grand Narrows, that county. Neil McNeil, the grandfather, was
a native of Barra, Scotland, where he spent his earlier days, but was
young when he left there and came to Nova Scotia.

Malcolm McNeil, father of our subject, removed to Glace Bay
about 1864, where he married and engaged in mining. His death
occurred at the age of sixty-three years. His widow is still living.
To these parents only one child was torn, Neil F. McNeil of this
sketch. After attending the public schools a few years he engaged
in mining, later becoming check weighman for the miners, making
his home in Glace Bay the meanwhile. In 1901 he was appointed
city clerk, which position he has since filled to the satisfaction of all
concerned, doing his work well and treating the people with courtesy
and consideration.

Mr. McNeil was married July 26, 1892, to Alice Guthro, of
French Vale, Cape Breton County, where the family has long been
well established. She is a daughter of James Guthro.

Ten children have been born to Mr. and Mrs. McNeil, named as
follows : Steven J. was recently graduated from a school of pharm-
acy: Lucy is the wife of Albin Bates, a jeweler of Sydney; Katie
was graduated from Mt. St. Vincent College and is now at home ;
Anne is attending school; Matilda is also a student; James is attend-
ing school ; Malcolm is deceased ; Mary Josephine, Clara Agnes, and
Alice Marguerite are all attending school.

Politically, Mr. McNeil is a Liberal. He is a Catholic, and be-
longs to the Knights of Columbus, also the Catholic Mutual Benefit
Association. “

Thank you to the great gods of Genealogy for this gift, and thank you to Alan Burnett for the equally great gift of Sepia Saturday!

(Click the image to visit the blog!)

*This morning, mom has come up with the song, and it’s a doozy! We need your help to track down the title and the rest of the lyrics, as Google is not proving fruitful in our search.

“When a man is dead, he’s cold in the ground,

cold in the ground,

cold in the ground.

When a man is dead, he’s cold in the ground;

The merry go round and round.”

(Probably from a Vaudeville tune, according to my mother.)

Saturday, November 12, 2011.

Mom has corrected me about the lyrics to the song, and I have found the source!  She was right about the vaudeville origin, but it came from a much earlier production written by Frederic Thompson, the architect who designed Luna Park on Coney Island in New York.

Here’s an excerpt from a book about the very man!

“Evidence of his audacity and of his achievement is suggested by a small sign that appeared on a ticket kiosk outside one of Luna’s attractions in 1912 0r 1913.  It announced: “Frederic Thompson’s Life is Only a Merry-Go-Round.”  The inscription was a miniscule feature in the sensationally Orientalized surrounding of the park, but its insight went to the heart of Thompson’s amusement enterprise.  As a practical matter, it alluded to a musical number from Thompson’s 1910 Broadway revue, Girlies, which had been notorious for its liberal “display of lingerie and limb”.”

(Taken from page 142 of “The Kid of Coney Island: Fred Thompson and the Rise of American Amusements by Woody Register, Oxford University Press, 2003.)


Here are the actual lyrics from the song  (music by Benjamin Hapgood Burt and lyrics by John L. Golden):

“Life is only a merry go round
The more I go round, the more I have found,
When a man is dead and he’s stuck in the ground,
The merry-go-round’ll go round and round.”

According to the IBDB (a website devoted to Broadway) the number was performed by “Dr. Oscar Speil and Male Students”. Hmm.

And here is an actual advertisement for the revue:

Ironically, the producer, Thompson was only 47 when he himself, died and was “stuck in the ground”!

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41 Responses to “SS 100 – THE PATRIARCH”

  1. genealogy has always fascinated me, both as a sociologist and a writer hungering to discover the secrets hiding in his own roots … and oh the secrets revealed.
    your family’s story and your journey of discovery makes for fascinating reading.

    • Thanks, Chuck! I didn’t get interested in it until after my dad’s death in 2008. And if you think these folks are interesting, you should see HIS side of the family!

  2. Very nice post Kat. Sounds like your great-grandfather didn’t stray to far from home. He’s a dashing man isn’t he.

    • No. He was born not too far from Glace Bay. Cape Breton island is not that large. He was raised and lived most of his 72 years in Glace Bay, and left his mark on it, by all accounts.

  3. Very interesting post and isn’t it wonderful when we find something about our own family on the Net.

    • Thanks, Marilyn. It is such a thrill to discover something like this. Just two years ago, I had only the scantest information on any of them!

  4. This reminded me of my grandfather. He also died suddenly in 1938 (before I was born), and I have a transcription of a journal he kept in 1901.

  5. You are so lucky that you found that article. So much info in it. Your great grandfather must have been quite a guy.
    Nancy javier

  6. Sepia Saturday 100 is a special occasion and it should be a platform for special posts about special people. And this is a special post about a special person. And, of course, it comes from a very special blogger : without whom Sepia Saturday would never have existed. Thanks Kat

  7. What a wonderful tribute. I do like the idea of your Mum dreamimg about your grandfather singing a vaudeville song! I wish I could help, but I’ve no idea what it is. I could almost make it fit to several well-known tunes but that was strecthing it a bit.

    • Nell, I thought it would be so easy to track it down, but so far, no luck! I’ll keep digging though – eventually something will come up! Thanks for reading.

  8. Quite the stately man and you have quite a bit of information there. I have never heard that song, are you sure it did not come from the recesses of her mind, deep there? Amusing that they even published his political leanings, “a liberal.”

    • Pat, you know, there is always that possiblity that it was a combination of tunes, or something that the subconscious created. I will have to keep looking.
      I found some of it very amusing and illuminating.

  9. Ah, the treasures to be found on the internet. Congratulations! It was a pleasure to read this post, Kat. Keep asking your mom questions — so many of us have no one left to ask! Again, congrats. Nice SS 100 post.

    • Thanks, Nancy! It is so true that there are treasures on the internet. What would we do without it and where will it lead next?
      I wish my mom would write stuff down, so we’d have a record of her thoughts and remembrances. (Are you reading this, Mom?)

      I may need to get a tape recorder.

  10. Thanks goes out to you and Alan for starting Sepia Saturday. Two things I look forward to every Saturday, breakfast with 8-9 of my best friends and SEPIA SATURDAY. Thanks again for your part in this.

    PS-I am curious as to the title Acadianeire, are you referring to Acadians as I am a decendant of Acadians here in New Brunswick….

    • Hello Rose-Marie,

      I’m pleased to have been a part of the inception of Sepia Saturday and delighted to know that it makes your Saturday. I wish I could be more active, but my life has changed recently and Saturdays are the busiest days!

      As to my username, my mother’s mother’s mother was a Gouthro from French Vale in Cape Breton. Her family were the Acadians. My father, having been Northern-Irish born into a family of 12, whose mother came from a family of 12, whose father came from a family of 12(!) makes up the “Eire”.

      I hope to play a more active role in SS once more, but it may be sporadic.

      Best,

      Kat

  11. I’ve been unable to track down that song either. You have so much information about your family it puts my puny efforts to shame.
    Thanks for getting together with Alan to kick start this sepia phenomenon.

    • Hey Bob! I am a relentless digger! I’m like that little Jack Russell that escapes and gets into your garden—dig, dig, dig! There’s loads of stuff hiding away on the internet and the amount of information that changes and comes to light over time is amazing. Just dig! That’s my motto.

  12. Karen S. Says:

    How delightful your post is! He was quite the man too! I hope long after I am gone that those little special marks we leave on people, and loved ones will be remembered long after I am gone…I too, hold dear such little simple things, like being sung or read to, and they are lovely thoughts of those that have left us.

  13. Papa looks like a kindly, sensible man in the photo – sorry I can’t help with the song tho :-) Jo

  14. My background is in Ireland too but I’ve very little information. I was even born in Dublin myself. your posts make me want to find out more.

  15. Fascinating story and great detective work finding the origins of the song. You captured the joy we all feel when we find a tidbit about one of our ancestors. Thank you for this post and for starting Sepia Saturday.!

    • It really is a joy, isn’t it. Incidentally, Liz, my grandfather’s mother, on my father’s side married a Stratton. Are you related to anyone in Belfast or County Down, Northern Ireland? We could be related by marriage!

  16. What an interesting post. I have a feeling if I knew the tune to that song that I’d be humming it all day. The lyrics are odd, but somehow compelling. I love reading about anything that has to do with Cape Breton. Ever since I read Alistair MacLeod’s Island, I’ve been fascinated with the place.

    • Christine, if you liked “Island”, you must read his, “No Great Mischief” which is unbelievably good. Also, Jean McNeil’s books, “Hunting Down Home” and “The Interpreter of Silences” quickly became two of my favourites that are set in C.B. Are you also a fan of films set there? Three I can highly recommend are: “Margaret’s Museum”, “New Waterford Girl” and “Marion Bridge”. In fact, my mother’s first cousin, Marguerite, is the mother in “Marion Bridge”.

      Kat

  17. What a great way to meet your great-grandfather! I wish I could eventually flesh out my ancesters with information like you have found. “Meeting” ancestors somehow makes you understand yourself a little better I think. Very cool that Marconi was an acqaintance.

    • The best place to start, Mary, is on Ancestry.com; I cannot recommend it highly enough! From there, you will connect with many others researching your own family for the members to whom they are connected. Then you will learn of other resources and have access to loads of stuff, both on and off the net!

      Kat

  18. A wonderful tribute No wonder you like to discover your ancestry It is fascinating stuff Kat. I love how your mother dreamed the song your grandfather or papa (papa is the dutch word for dad) so touchingly song for his grandchildren

    • Hi Marja! It has proved to be an interesting journey of discovery and is still on going! I half expect my mother to come up with some more information even today! It was quite a song though, wasn’t it?

      Best to you and your family,

      Kat

  19. I really enjoyed your post about your Great-Grandfather.. Thanks so much for creating SS for us; I look forward to it each week.

  20. Thanks for your part in SS. And for your very, very interesting post. I love how it kept growing.
    Barbara

  21. gluepot Says:

    You were very lucky to have found them gem about your great-grandfather, but the words to the song from your mother are priceless, even if they were slightly different from the original. Thank you.

    • They ARE priceless, aren’t they? I may have got the lyric wrong myself, but I’m glad I found the original so I could share it with her.
      Thanks for your comment!

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